[2012-05-16 15:02:56] <jeebus_> Tesla history lesson. :)

[2012-05-16 15:08:41] <i3> shockingly accurate... for a wasted guy

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[2012-05-16 15:33:25] <C1UCharon> Dead in here.

[2012-05-16 15:34:34] <i3> Very

[2012-05-16 15:35:08] <i3> Some of us are here, but reading about pigeons... I swear it's relevant

[2012-05-16 15:35:52] <begedele> I guess they are all playing Diablo 3

[2012-05-16 15:36:21] <C1UCharon> I got a laugh out of that pigeon bit.

[2012-05-16 15:37:35] <i3> We haven't made much progress on the intel in 36, but it's still being passed to some native


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[2012-05-16 15:39:19] <anon> how are the igeons relevent?

[2012-05-16 15:39:45] <anon> like carrier igeons?

[2012-05-16 15:39:54] <i3> Jeebus_ had a theory that some of the aum tech could be related to a scalar wave theory by


[2012-05-16 15:39:57] <anon> or teslas imaginary idgeon?

[2012-05-16 15:40:03] <anon> aah

[2012-05-16 15:40:10] <i3> By tesla's own words, if could fry a person at distance

[2012-05-16 15:40:15] <i3> so yeah, that one

[2012-05-16 15:40:31] <i3> It's just such a strange story, I got sidetracked by it

[2012-05-16 15:40:37] <anon> interesting indeed

[2012-05-16 15:40:46] <C1UCharon> Didn't he smash a pigeon with his peace ray right before blowing up Tungska?

[2012-05-16 15:41:36] <i3> Yeah, I think he did

[2012-05-16 15:41:51] <i3> He had a lot of stories about pigeons...

[2012-05-16 15:42:10] <anon> they may hold a key

[2012-05-16 15:42:23] <i3> Haha, no, I think he just liked them

[2012-05-16 15:43:05] <i3> He didn't get much of a real connection with anyone, so these birds that kept coming back to

him would have been comforting, especially the one he said visited while he was alone, and dying

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[2012-05-16 15:57:37] <C1UCharon> Poor bastard.

[2012-05-16 15:59:49] <i3> So pretty much what we've got is; While it's power isn't proven yet, modern physics agrees that

some of the qualities of his peace ray are not only entirely possible, but currently used. One example is the crowd control

microwave emitter, which cites his paper on scalar wave theory as a source...

[2012-05-16 16:00:29] <i3> We know that a number of physicists were popularily part of aum

[2012-05-16 16:00:48] <C1UCharon> True. Religion of the elite. Like scientology with guns and KGB backing.

[2012-05-16 16:00:58] <i3> KGB backing is the big one

[2012-05-16 16:01:22] <i3> Tesla's lab was famously raided by the russian government at the time, shortly after his death

[2012-05-16 16:01:50] <i3> If plans for his unpatented inventions exist anywhere, it is certainly in russia

[2012-05-16 16:02:57] <i3> Now, really from there we can only guess, but a hundred years ago, a pretty massive machine is

quite possibly responsible for blowing up a swamp

[2012-05-16 16:03:26] <i3> a machine that was mostly self powered, based on his theory of pulling energy wirelessly from

the surrounding

[2012-05-16 16:04:49] <i3> If you could, with modern tech, also wirelessly control it, we could be looking at anything

from modern splinters of aum having one/many, and possibly being able to place them somewhere, and later on tell them what to blow

up, or burn

[2012-05-16 16:06:25] <i3> Seeing as these are based on the same tech as the microwave emitters we thought could be

responsible for your charred corpses, I don't see why this couldn't be either

[2012-05-16 16:06:46] <C1UCharon> It all throws me for a loop, I'll say that.

[2012-05-16 16:06:57] <i3> Yeah

[2012-05-16 16:07:02] <C1UCharon> Used to dealing with this terror cell, that terror cell. This bad idea, that bad idea.

[2012-05-16 16:07:25] <C1UCharon> Now we're talking death modems that melt faces on your local 3G network.

[2012-05-16 16:07:43] <i3> Ha. Yeah. that's pretty much exactly what I was thinking

[2012-05-16 16:07:49] <i3> which is not a fun thought

[2012-05-16 16:08:01] <jessie> So tinfoil hats for everyone!

[2012-05-16 16:08:08] <C1UCharon> Morning, Jess.

[2012-05-16 16:08:12] <i3> I guess there's one question, and depending on it, one other...

[2012-05-16 16:08:25] <C1UCharon> We talking thought-screen helmets now?

[2012-05-16 16:08:38] <yanni4100> Good Evening from Germany guys.

[2012-05-16 16:08:43] <jessie> Or evening as the case may be.

[2012-05-16 16:08:46] <i3> Could the device be one? And if so... where the hell does the whispering come ine

[2012-05-16 16:08:51] <i3> hey guys

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[2012-05-16 16:09:42] <begedele> hi yanni

[2012-05-16 16:10:01] <yanni4100> hi bege :)

[2012-05-16 16:10:03] <i3> Hey, charon, intel said that we had a max range on these things, right?

[2012-05-16 16:10:25] <i3> the device, that is

[2012-05-16 16:10:37] <C1UCharon> About 30 miles in an open area. Keep in mind the testing site was a dried up riverbed in the

middle of nowhere.

[2012-05-16 16:11:27] <jessie> illustrious: It may be accidentally rebroadcasting radio broadcasts or something into brains.

[2012-05-16 16:11:41] <jessie> Accidental rebroadcasting of radio stations or something.

[2012-05-16 16:11:42] <i3> Alright. And how far were the stretchers with these about to be burned guys on it from the your

captured device?

[2012-05-16 16:11:57] <C1UCharon> Like a shitty retrans site?

[2012-05-16 16:12:40] <C1UCharon> At least a good 100 meters, Ill.

[2012-05-16 16:12:48] <i3> I'm not sure how it could... scalar wave theory should just be about excitement of particles,

how would a human brain pick those up as a signal

[2012-05-16 16:12:50] <C1UCharon> Before I doused 'em in gasoline.

[2012-05-16 16:13:14] <i3> Oh, so well within the 30 miles

[2012-05-16 16:13:26] <C1UCharon> Most definitely. Before we left the riverbed.

[2012-05-16 16:14:17] <i3> Alright... I think i'm confusing myself some, going in circles too many times. I'm gonna take a

good read back through the logs before I trip too much further down this line of thinking

[2012-05-16 16:15:25] <i3> at least this morning's transmission sounds like there'll be some action soon

[2012-05-16 16:15:45] <C1UCharon> That's what I'm saying.

[2012-05-17 02:27:15] <C1UCharon> Sure thing, nnothingg. What do you need help on?

[2012-05-17 02:28:10] <nnothingg> Trasmission 36.......

[2012-05-17 02:28:16] <nnothingg> The thing we're stuck on

[2012-05-17 02:28:17] <C1UCharon> Anything specific you can give me? I might be of some use.

[2012-05-17 02:28:22] <nnothingg> Surely you know by now

[2012-05-17 02:28:38] <C1UCharon> I know you're stuck. You'll need to give me a little more than that.

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[2012-05-17 02:28:48] <i3> hey Humean

[2012-05-17 02:28:50] <nnothingg> Nevermind brah.

[2012-05-17 02:28:55] <Humean> hello dudes

[2012-05-17 02:29:02] <kluge> C1UCharon, should we be using the i-ro-ha grid to translate those numbers?

[2012-05-17 02:29:11] <kluge> if you know

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[2012-05-17 02:30:11] <nnothingg> hm

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[2012-05-17 02:30:18] <nnothingg> C1UCharon: did you see kluge's question

[2012-05-17 02:30:32] <kluge> C1UCharon, should we be using the i-ro-ha grid to translate the numbers from transmission 36?

[2012-05-17 02:30:34] <C1UCharon> Send me the grid you're talking about.

[2012-05-17 02:30:38] <kluge> okay

[2012-05-17 02:30:39] <C1UCharon> Or a link to it.

[2012-05-17 02:31:39] <kluge>

[2012-05-17 02:31:42] <kluge> it's at the top of that page

[2012-05-17 02:32:49] <C1UCharon> First thing: This bit was intercepted from Russia to mainland. There's a possibility some of it

is broken Japanese.

[2012-05-17 02:33:02] <kluge> hmm

[2012-05-17 02:33:42] <C1UCharon> Checking your grid out.

[2012-05-17 02:34:48] <C1UCharon> Right quick, what lead you to use the I-Ro-Ha?

[2012-05-17 02:35:29] <kluge> each number was 2 digits, all digits were 1-7

[2012-05-17 02:35:29] <C1UCharon> Belay my last, got the answer on that.

[2012-05-17 02:35:33] <kluge> we assumed it would be japanese

[2012-05-17 02:35:34] <kluge> okay

[2012-05-17 02:36:49] <C1UCharon> Checked it out.



[2012-05-17 02:37:40] <C1UCharon> Not by itself, but have we looked into what "The Whisperer" is in Japanese?

[2012-05-17 02:38:03] <i3> yeah. there's a few words, and as our hiragana is now, none of them are present in it

[2012-05-17 02:38:05] <Kelgand> Nothing useful on a I-Ro-ha

[2012-05-17 02:38:26] <i3> I think there was about 4 forms of whisper and whisperer we tried

[2012-05-17 02:38:28] <kluge> perhaps there is a proper whisperer?

[2012-05-17 02:38:33] <C1UCharon> Using that, have you troubleshot the I-Ro-Ha via Ceasarian shift?

[2012-05-17 02:38:33] <kluge> something that has that as a nickname

[2012-05-17 02:38:41] <kluge> hmm

[2012-05-17 02:38:42] <i3>

[2012-05-17 02:38:44] <kluge> no

[2012-05-17 02:38:46] <C1UCharon> Japanese encryption isn't usually very complicated.

[2012-05-17 02:38:52] <kluge> transmission said it wasn't further encrypted

[2012-05-17 02:38:55] <C1UCharon> That being said, they love to use multiple forms of encryption.

[2012-05-17 02:39:05] <C1UCharon> Hm.

[2012-05-17 02:39:10] <i3> We assumed that meant not further by virgil, though

[2012-05-17 02:39:12] <i3> no?

[2012-05-17 02:39:13] <Kelgand> kluge: Virgil hasn't encypted it anymore, doesn't mean the enemy hasn't.

[2012-05-17 02:39:22] <C1UCharon> That makes more sense.

[2012-05-17 02:39:22] <kluge> good point

[2012-05-17 02:39:41] <C1UCharon> Check your source on this, of course. If you read up on it and disagree, maybe we're using the

wrong tool.

[2012-05-17 02:39:53] <i3> Wow, we should have thought of cesarian. I'm just so used to skipping it due to simplicity

[2012-05-17 02:39:56] <C1UCharon> That being said, from what I know, the Japanese love double, triple, up to 10x encryption.

[2012-05-17 02:40:07] <C1UCharon> Usually simple stuff, just many types together.

[2012-05-17 02:40:24] <kluge> hmmm

[2012-05-17 02:40:27] <kluge> ok thanks

[2012-05-17 02:40:38] <C1UCharon> Hah. Don't thank me yet.

[2012-05-17 02:40:56] <i3> It's at least a starting point

[2012-05-17 02:40:56] <Kelgand> The key is probably inscribed on a transistor in a computer in the basement of one of the junior-

Aleph members.

[2012-05-17 02:40:57] <C1UCharon> You might be cursing me after trying it for an hour.

[2012-05-17 02:41:31] <C1UCharon> Find me the member, I'll get you his clothing and a transistor.

[2012-05-17 02:42:08] <i3> Ha. I guess I'll go find my hiragana chart, as I think this next part'll have to be by hand

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[2012-05-17 02:43:08] <Kelgand> I wonder if that cipher-wheel can be used for anything....That would mean Virgil=EN, though.

[2012-05-17 02:43:21] <Kelgand> Charon, are you SURE Virgil is on our side?

[2012-05-17 02:43:47] <C1UCharon> As sure as anyone could be about anything, I suppose.

[2012-05-17 02:43:48] <i3> Ha. If not, what the hell IS our side?

[2012-05-17 02:44:08] <nnothingg> C1UCharon = Virgil?

[2012-05-17 02:44:22] <Kelgand> Charon = phone guy, Virgil = spreaker gal

[2012-05-17 02:44:24] <nnothingg> Kelgand made me think 'bout it

[2012-05-17 02:44:38] <C1UCharon> I'm not Virgil, N.

[2012-05-17 02:44:42] <kluge> C1UCharon, you've worked with virgil before though?

[2012-05-17 02:44:48] <C1UCharon> Yes.

[2012-05-17 02:44:52] <Kelgand> If Charon = Virgil, then we're in far deeper than we should be.

[2012-05-17 02:45:14] <Kelgand> Hmm. Looking back, I need to pay attention more before I ask silly questions

[2012-05-17 02:45:21] <kluge> well we can presume there is at least one female and at least one male working on this


[2012-05-17 02:45:27] <kluge> might as well call them virgil and charon respectively

[2012-05-17 02:45:31] <Kelgand> PROBABLE RELATION TO SUS DEV <-- Line two =/

[2012-05-17 02:45:34] <C1UCharon> I'm capable of making a deep male voice, then a high pitched female voice.

[2012-05-17 02:45:39] <kluge> lol

[2012-05-17 02:46:00] <Kelgand> The Whisperer = sus dev.

[2012-05-17 02:46:05] <Kelgand> Question answered.

[2012-05-17 02:46:07] <kluge> yes

[2012-05-17 02:47:37] <Kelgand> Oh, Charon: Virgil has been typo'ing lately in her transmissions. Can you suggest to her a double-

check before posting them up?

[2012-05-17 02:47:59] <C1UCharon> Yeaaah. I think she might be drinking.

[2012-05-17 02:48:18] <Kelgand> EXPECT EN TO ATTEMPT TO BOLST (L L O M Q A) AS INTERCEPTION etc....

[2012-05-17 02:48:25] <C1UCharon> She doesn't sound drunk, but if she catches a good pocket of stress, she's likely to gab a beer

or two.

[2012-05-17 02:48:55] <C1UCharon> We talked about that this morning, too. I think she might've meant "bolster". Don't know of

another word that really fits.

[2012-05-17 02:49:07] <nnothingg> oh great, so drinking and making codes, as if our puzzles werent difficult already

[2012-05-17 02:49:11] <C1UCharon> Unless "BOLST" is something else entirely.

[2012-05-17 02:49:16] <nnothingg> now throw some human error into it

[2012-05-17 02:49:24] <C1UCharon> The only time I've ever been in complete agreement with nnothingg. Hah.

[2012-05-17 02:49:37] <C1UCharon> I got a chuckle out of that.

[2012-05-17 02:49:38] <Kelgand> I thought about that, but there is -no- way to get that L into an E.

[2012-05-17 02:50:14] <C1UCharon> Then I default to my original theory: Firewater. Gal must be having a hard way to go.

[2012-05-17 02:50:22] <kluge> 'ri na shi shi' appears at least twice in there

[2012-05-17 02:50:36] <kluge> might be sasayaki in reverse?

[2012-05-17 02:50:40] <Kelgand> Ha, new form of encryption: drunk typing.

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[2012-05-17 02:51:08] <nnothingg> new ? people probably type drunk everyday

[2012-05-17 02:51:16] <nnothingg> and it as a system would be weak lol

[2012-05-17 02:51:18] <kluge> Kelgand, yeah, you gotta be tight with them to understand what they're saying

[2012-05-17 02:51:42] <kluge> inebriation cipher

[2012-05-17 02:52:02] <kluge> I've used that one before I think

[2012-05-17 02:52:07] <Kelgand> lol

[2012-05-17 02:52:27] <C1UCharon> Does it encrypt speech or text more effectively?

[2012-05-17 02:52:28] <Kelgand> Well, maybe cqtm.

[2012-05-17 02:53:18] <Kelgand> iPhone spellcheck cipher?

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[2012-05-17 02:53:37] <nnothingg> =\

[2012-05-17 02:53:38] <Kelgand> We need to patent these. Charon, can you see if any militaries would be interested?

[2012-05-17 02:53:55] <C1UCharon> You got it, buddy. I'll start with the Australians, right after this.

[2012-05-17 02:54:25] <kluge> sorry in advance to australia

[2012-05-17 02:54:41] <kluge> hmm

[2012-05-17 02:55:13] <C1UCharon> Hah! What's that, Kluge?

[2012-05-17 02:55:32] <kluge> for giving them our drunk ciphers

[2012-05-17 02:55:45] <C1UCharon> Oh man, thought you were apologizing for sending my ass

[2012-05-17 02:55:50] <kluge> haha

[2012-05-17 02:56:02] <C1UCharon> Ah, that was good.

[2012-05-17 02:56:30] <C1UCharon> Real light hearted bunch, considering.

[2012-05-17 02:58:46] <Kelgand> If this all fails and the end of the world is upon us, are we all going to be wetworked?

[2012-05-17 02:58:55] <Kelgand> Or will you just let us be POAd?

[2012-05-17 03:01:14] <i3> So here's the question gents. Do I first try a shift of the i ro ha, or of the full alphabet?

[2012-05-17 03:01:33] <Sorgens> The i-ro-ha may not be shifter

[2012-05-17 03:01:40] <Sorgens> But it may have a keyword like playfair

[2012-05-17 03:01:46] <Sorgens> shifted.

[2012-05-17 03:03:02] <C1UCharon> POA'd?

[2012-05-17 03:03:36] <Kelgand> It's a term meaning to kill someone for a religious reason so that their soul will be saved.

[2012-05-17 03:03:42] <Kelgand> Well, Aum's term.

[2012-05-17 03:04:38] <kluge> 55 33 17 76 27 53 63 22 37 67 67 64 could this be our whisperer

[2012-05-17 03:05:17] <C1UCharon> I'll blow them away until we're overrun by comets and zombies or something.

[2012-05-17 05:17:14] <Kelgand> lol Charon's getting a free flash drive.

[2012-05-17 05:17:26] <Sorgens> Based on the ip tracing and the coords from this transmission

[2012-05-17 05:17:37] <C1UCharon> A damn cool looking one, too.

[2012-05-17 05:17:42] <Sorgens> I'd say he is located max. 30 mins away.

[2012-05-17 05:17:55] <C1UCharon> Package secure, no friendly casualties.

[2012-05-17 05:18:03] <Sorgens> Or less...

[2012-05-17 05:18:12] <Kelgand> Welcome back.

[2012-05-17 05:18:15] <C1UCharon> No EN on site.

[2012-05-17 05:18:27] <Kelgand> Any neutral casualties?

[2012-05-17 05:18:34] <C1UCharon> Snails.

[2012-05-17 05:18:38] <C1UCharon> And almost, a frog.

[2012-05-17 05:18:39] <Kelgand> Bummer.

[2012-05-17 05:18:45] <i3> So we hope that you beat them to it, not that they planned for us to get it

[2012-05-17 05:18:48] <Kelgand> Was it in a gazebo thing?

[2012-05-17 05:18:53] <Sorgens> It's Japan., so whales.

[2012-05-17 05:18:56] <C1UCharon> Yeah. Had a big shell on top.

[2012-05-17 05:19:02] <C1UCharon> They hid the thing in an umbrella.

[2012-05-17 05:19:06] <i3> ha

[2012-05-17 05:19:32] <C1UCharon> Got it all on chest cam. Will upload with contents upon arrival.

[2012-05-17 05:19:47] <Kelgand> [04:16] <kluge> doesn't he have a lipstick cam or such now though

[2012-05-17 05:19:52] <i3> Great!

[2012-05-17 05:20:17] <C1UCharon> Returning ETA 45 mikes, traffic willing.

[2012-05-17 05:20:36] <Sorgens> Becareful

[2012-05-17 05:20:40] <Sorgens> Not to be tailed by someone.

[2012-05-17 05:20:54] <C1UCharon> Clearing routes already established prior to step.

[2012-05-17 05:20:58] <C1UCharon> Wilco.

[2012-05-17 05:20:58] <Kelgand> Take a taxi.

[2012-05-17 05:21:07] <i3> I suspect the info will have to go through Virgil before we see what's on it though?

[2012-05-17 05:21:23] <Kelgand> It's a drop for Charon, it probably came from Virgil.

[2012-05-17 05:21:33] <C1UCharon> Whether she'd like that or not, you're getting it. I'll bet you need to start working on

whatever's in there.

[2012-05-17 05:21:44] <C1UCharon> Charon out

[2012-05-17 06:16:30] <C1UCharon> On station, have obtained access to youtube channel. No tinypic for you cats.

[2012-05-17 06:17:13] <i3> Great timing

[2012-05-17 06:17:25] <i3> Kelgand: news

[2012-05-17 06:20:06] <C1UCharon> Good and bad. Looks like the camera doesn't like the dark much.

[2012-05-17 06:20:42] <C1UCharon> On the up and up: The gazebos are visible, the pickup is visible. Next time, I'll strap NVGs or

mount a light of some sort.

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[2012-05-17 06:21:14] <i3> Well, at least we find out on something so simple as a pickup

[2012-05-17 06:24:28] <C1UCharon> Good call there.

[2012-05-17 06:24:50] <C1UCharon> If this has anything good in it, we'll have a solid video on what happens to follow.

[2012-05-17 06:25:02] <C1UCharon> I'm standing ready for follow on operations immediately after this release.

[2012-05-17 06:26:13] <C1UCharon> Additionally, on the route back, we spotted a taxi with blue stripe.

[2012-05-17 06:26:29] <C1UCharon> There's quite a few out here, but we decided to follow it for a moment.

[2012-05-17 06:27:15] <C1UCharon> It began to get somewhat evasive, and we picked up a tail. Hit a clearing route and the tail

dropped off. Could be nothing: The traffic conditions out here make driving an interesting experience.

[2012-05-17 06:28:11] <C1UCharon> Made access to drive.

[2012-05-17 06:28:19] <i3> I'll bet. I'll just hope it was one of their guys on his way too/from a really dissapointing

drop site

[2012-05-17 06:28:53] <C1UCharon> Two files inside.

[2012-05-17 06:29:04] <C1UCharon> Any preference on where I post the data on the drive?

[2012-05-17 06:29:16] <i3> Not so long as it's easy to get at

[2012-05-17 06:29:42] <i3> the group can trade it around where they want if someone has a strong preference

[2012-05-17 06:29:48] <Pliskin> Kelgand

[2012-05-17 06:32:29] <Kelgand> yo

[2012-05-17 06:34:17] <C1UCharon>

[2012-05-17 06:34:20] <C1UCharon> First file.

[2012-05-17 06:35:48] <i3> recieved

[2012-05-17 06:40:06] <C1UCharon>

[2012-05-17 06:40:27] <C1UCharon> I apologize for the clicking noise. Sounds like the camera bounces around in the waterproof


[2012-05-17 06:42:02] <Pliskin> its all good

[2012-05-17 06:42:05] <i3> And, like you said, the actual pickup is visible

[2012-05-17 06:43:09] <C1UCharon> We also have a few stills from the pickup sites that show a bit more detail.

[2012-05-17 06:45:26] <i3> Sounds good. What was the second file like?

[2012-05-17 06:46:01] <C1UCharon> Numbers again. Having trouble keeping the actual lines in order when I paste. It'll be up ASAP.

[2012-05-17 06:46:27] <i3> great, actual line breaks will make it much easier for us

[2012-05-17 06:46:49] <C1UCharon> I hope it rains later, and the poor sap going to get his little drop doesn't have his umbrella


[2012-05-17 06:47:55] <Pliskin> sucks to be him

[2012-05-17 06:48:08] <i3> Ha. In an umbrella seems like such a strange place. Big enough that it could get noticed, and

picked up as lost.

[2012-05-17 06:48:39] <i3> Hopefully they just blame whoever's idea that was

[2012-05-17 06:48:53] <Pliskin> wel it is their fault

[2012-05-17 06:48:59] <Pliskin> well*

[2012-05-17 06:50:59] <C1UCharon> One way or another, a wasted trip's in store for some poor shit. Not me.

[2012-05-17 06:56:13] <C1UCharon>

[2012-05-17 06:57:57] <Pliskin> got it

[2012-05-17 06:58:25] <C1UCharon> That's the second and final file. I'll search the drive to ensure no further data exists, to

include a deleted items recovery attempt.

[2012-05-17 06:58:38] <C1UCharon> If I get any weird porn, I'm posting it.

[2012-05-17 06:58:45] <C1UCharon> Could be relevant.

[2012-05-17 06:58:48] <Sorgens> Yes please!

[2012-05-17 06:58:48] <i3> Great. We'll do what we can with them. Anything else we should know on them before we get


[2012-05-17 06:58:50] <i3> Ha

[2012-05-17 06:58:51] <Sorgens> Uhm... what?!

[2012-05-17 06:59:07] <i3> Hey, you never know what could be relevant

[2012-05-17 06:59:30] <C1UCharon> I don't have any immediate information on the individual who put this in place, or who it was

intended for.

[2012-05-17 06:59:36] <C1UCharon> The only thing I have for you is this:

[2012-05-17 06:59:56] <C1UCharon> Find these motherfuckers and see what happens to them.

[2012-05-17 07:00:56] <i3> Solid copy

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[2012-05-17 07:05:50] <marylamb> Alright, I gotta bolt but I'll check back later to see if anything is happening in my neck of the


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[2012-05-17 07:06:17] <i3> See you marylamb

[2012-05-17 07:06:26] <C1UCharon> Night.

[2012-05-17 07:06:33] <marylamb> later skater :)

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[2012-05-17 07:07:06] <i3> I added the two files to the docs for ease everyone

[2012-05-17 07:08:42] <yanni4100> Hey guys.

[2012-05-17 07:08:59] <yanni4100> has the video on the youtube channel already made it to here?

[2012-05-17 07:09:12] <yanni4100>

[2012-05-17 07:09:26] <i3> Heh. Yeah, it sort of started here. Or close enough to.

[2012-05-17 07:09:32] <yanni4100> Oh.

[2012-05-17 07:09:38] <yanni4100> hehe.

[2012-05-17 07:10:06] <yanni4100> Yeah I had difficulties connecting to the irc so I was cut off everything that happened.

[2012-05-17 07:11:23] <i3> fair enough, check the doc, t38's drop gave us two files, they're up there

[2012-05-17 07:11:41] <Sorgens> Heh, I was the first viewer

[2012-05-17 07:14:11] <C1UCharon>

[2012-05-17 07:14:32] <C1UCharon> Flash drive picked up. Classy lil' bastard.

[2012-05-17 07:15:00] <i3> Very nice.

[2012-05-17 07:15:19] <i3> Always liked that style

[2012-05-17 07:15:42] <i3> Well, thanks for the info Charon. I'm gonna go work on these offline for a bit, I'll check back

later everyone.

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[2012-05-17 07:22:53] <C1UCharon> Double checked the second pastebin. There's a couple garbage lines that aren't in the original.

Updated pastebin:

[2012-05-17 07:24:13] <Sorgens> Yeah, I was going to say that one has a 156 in it.

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[2012-05-17 07:28:42] <Sorgens> Any extra files in the flash drive?

[2012-05-17 07:28:55] <Sorgens> Or still looking at it

[2012-05-17 07:31:14] <Pliskin> i think i see someone in you video Charon, could you verify this? 2:26 beneath what looks like a


[2012-05-17 07:34:05] <nignog> its the shadow people

[2012-05-17 07:34:45] <C1UCharon> Looks like a solid assessment.

[2012-05-17 07:35:29] <C1UCharon> Despite the darkness, the park still had runners everywhere. Could've been one of those.

[2012-05-17 07:36:56] <Pliskin> you said you were followed on your way out, got me double checking the video.

[2012-05-17 07:39:48] <C1UCharon> 0000000000000aaa

[2012-05-17 07:40:09] <C1UCharon> Well done, bowl of soup.

[2012-05-17 07:40:37] <C1UCharon> Anyway, good eye, Pliskin. Got me racking my brain here.

[2012-05-17 07:49:18] <C1UCharon> Anyone up on the translation of those filenames?

[2012-05-17 07:53:57] <Pliskin> yes i think i may be onto something

[2012-05-17 07:54:01] <Pliskin>




[2012-05-17 07:54:11] <Pliskin> i got that from substitution cipher

[2012-05-17 07:54:21] <kluge> safe transport is the first one

[2012-05-17 07:54:23] <Pliskin> running that through others now to see what i can get

[2012-05-17 07:54:46] <kluge> C1UCharon, first filename is 'safe transport' or 'safe transportation'

[2012-05-17 07:55:03] <C1UCharon> Acknowledged.

[2012-05-17 07:55:07] <kluge> second is 'schedule'

[2012-05-17 07:55:14] <kluge> I think

[2012-05-17 07:55:23] <Pliskin> better than what i have to bring to the table

[2012-05-17 07:55:30] <C1UCharon> Hah. Schedule? Yes, please.

[2012-05-17 07:58:47] <kluge> google says 'itinerary'

[2012-05-17 07:58:51] <kluge> :)

[2012-05-17 07:59:23] <C1UCharon> Itinerary?

[2012-05-17 07:59:41] <kluge> yes

[2012-05-17 07:59:44] <kluge> for the second one

[2012-05-17 08:00:19] <kluge> so it might be safe to assume that the large numbers are times

[2012-05-17 08:00:34] <kluge> or something similar

[2012-05-17 08:01:08] <begedele> morning

[2012-05-17 08:01:25] <Pliskin> hey

[2012-05-17 08:01:42] <C1UCharon> Stepping out to grab a couple of hours. Dial me up. Stay sane, SIFT.

troll session by nnothingg cut for length

[2012-05-17 16:05:10] <C1UCharon> Anon: Dog's doing great.

[2012-05-17 16:05:14] <anon> :D

[2012-05-17 16:05:24] <nnothingg> What's wrong with asking these things, we're taking a break from the doc for now

[2012-05-17 16:05:25] <kluge> what was its name again?

[2012-05-17 16:05:33] <C1UCharon> Okuri.

[2012-05-17 16:05:41] <nnothingg> Your dog needs a friend

[2012-05-17 16:05:44] <kluge> oh that's right

[2012-05-17 16:05:45] <anon> i dont have a degree in sychology, but i can listen and hel been to enough shrink

[2012-05-17 16:05:46] <anon> s

[2012-05-17 16:05:55] <nnothingg> I will claim to have a degree in psychology.

[2012-05-17 16:05:58] <nnothingg> So we can continue

[2012-05-17 16:06:02] <kluge> nice name

[2012-05-17 16:06:03] <nnothingg> Sister, older? Younger?

[2012-05-17 16:06:29] <C1UCharon> N: When you're here, you're criticizing everything for, as far as I can tell, no good reason. I'm

not inclined to give a shit about your questions. I consider kicking you everytime we talk. Yesterday evening is the exception to


[2012-05-17 16:06:41] <nnothingg> I see, interesting approach

[2012-05-17 16:06:49] <nnothingg> So do they have scientology places of worship where you are?

[2012-05-17 16:07:02] <C1UCharon> Far as I can tell, you're here to bitch. Haven't seen you help your teammates. I want this to be

open, so you're still around.

[2012-05-17 16:07:14] <nnothingg> Interesting insight

[2012-05-17 16:07:18] <nnothingg> Well you DID claim Scientology

[2012-05-17 16:07:32] <C1UCharon> Yeah. I'm an OT3.

[2012-05-17 16:07:41] <C1UCharon> I move shit with my mind, N.

[2012-05-17 16:07:58] <C1UCharon> Sometimes, late at night, I hit a couple of shots and consider using my mind powers for evil.

[2012-05-17 16:08:19] <anon> get that shit on your helmet cam :D

[2012-05-17 16:08:25] <nnothingg> So you're not into scientology.

[2012-05-17 16:08:32] <C1UCharon> You got it, anon.

[2012-05-17 16:08:37] <C1UCharon> Hah.

[2012-05-17 16:08:46] <anon> rad

[2012-05-17 16:08:47] <nnothingg> K so..right, we should believe....things .. you provide us

[2012-05-17 16:08:48] <kluge> basically, I want to be able to figure out this transmission

[2012-05-17 16:08:48] <nnothingg> I see

[2012-05-17 16:08:49] <kluge> with my mind

[2012-05-17 16:08:59] <kluge> and it no workin

[2012-05-17 16:09:11] <nnothingg> I was just telling kluge I should /ignore you.. I feel you just mislead us

[2012-05-17 16:09:14] <anon> dont strain too hard kluge

[2012-05-17 16:09:15] <nnothingg> So ..yeah

[2012-05-17 16:09:26] <C1UCharon> You also feel I'm changing around documents.

[2012-05-17 16:09:27] <nnothingg> Anyway, so be it

[2012-05-17 16:09:34] <C1UCharon> You feel I'm not in the service in any way.

[2012-05-17 16:09:40] <C1UCharon> You feel a bunch of weird, weird shit.

[2012-05-17 16:10:08] <kluge> well to be honest, this, all of this, is some pretty weird, weird shit

[2012-05-17 16:10:18] <nnothingg> kluge: Well yah. lol

[2012-05-17 16:10:19] <C1UCharon> The other day, you felt I was a role playing character on the internet who knew super-kung fu.

[2012-05-17 16:10:29] <C1UCharon> I had red hair, with crimson streaks.

[2012-05-17 16:11:02] <anon> hey i found that!

[2012-05-17 16:11:11] <kluge> yeah I remember readin' that, it was weird

[2012-05-17 16:11:16] <K38> Ahah.

[2012-05-17 16:11:29] <kluge> but it seems there are a metric fuckton of things with the words charon and umbra in them

[2012-05-17 16:11:30] <anon> just a coincident, it was old as shit

[2012-05-17 16:11:40] <anon> yeah

[2012-05-17 16:11:48] <anon> but weirder the better

[2012-05-17 16:11:56] <C1UCharon> Yeah, 2004. N "felt" the date was pretty significant.

[2012-05-17 16:13:00] <anon> anything and everything could be significant :|

[2012-05-17 16:13:16] <jessie> anon: Heh. I was going to say, "I feel my penis is quite significant."

[2012-05-17 16:13:52] <anon> 8675309 is significant

[2012-05-17 16:14:22] <anon> lol jessie very imortant to all this umbra stuff

[2012-05-17 16:14:59] <C1UCharon> Penis is integral to the accomplishment of our mission.

[2012-05-17 16:15:14] <kluge> Pen_is

[2012-05-17 16:15:17] <kluge> fixed that for ya

[2012-05-17 16:15:19] <anon> ok guys time to stick it in. hoorah

[2012-05-17 16:15:24] <C1UCharon> Hey, what's the status on those two documents from last night?

[2012-05-17 16:15:43] <kluge> they...they're...they exist

[2012-05-17 16:16:04] <kluge> need a fluent japanese speaker

[2012-05-17 16:16:09] <jessie> We still need a native japanese speaker.

[2012-05-17 16:16:10] <kluge> I think

[2012-05-17 16:16:18] <kluge> well reader at least

[2012-05-17 16:16:25] <jessie> I know a few. I don't think they'd be willing to help, though.

[2012-05-17 16:16:36] <C1UCharon>

[2012-05-17 16:16:52] <i3> We've converted them to a few forms of both Japanese and English, but no real progress yet

[2012-05-17 16:16:54] <C1UCharon> Finally vetted and up, not in its entirety.

[2012-05-17 16:17:49] <jessie> What is this of?

[2012-05-17 16:18:28] <C1UCharon> Assault on OBJ Ambrose, supported.

[2012-05-17 16:19:30] <C1UCharon> Also: You asked for a picture of a honcho, I snagged a video. He didn't seem to like me rolling

with him.

[2012-05-17 16:19:54] <i3> Damn, I'll have to watch that when I get home

[2012-05-17 16:20:24] <kluge> what's the explosion?

[2012-05-17 16:20:40] <kluge> rather, what was the explosion?

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[2012-05-17 16:21:07] <C1UCharon> MCLIC, taking care of ordnance found on site. Can also be used to breach obstacles, like wire and


[2012-05-17 16:21:23] <anon> so obj ambrose was a helicoter?

[2012-05-17 16:21:25] <K38> Your dog looks nice.

[2012-05-17 16:21:25] <C1UCharon> Capable of proofing a wide lane for ground troops.

[2012-05-17 16:22:01] <C1UCharon> OBJ Ambrose was a patch of land. An Objective is rarely an item, vehicle. It refers to the area

that you want to go to. The place you want to do things.

[2012-05-17 16:22:14] <C1UCharon> Probably happy to be alive, K.

[2012-05-17 16:22:22] <jessie> So what was at Ambrose?

[2012-05-17 16:22:39] <C1UCharon> The first encounter with the suspect device.

[2012-05-17 16:22:59] <C1UCharon> 5 EN, followed by an enemy quick response force.

[2012-05-17 16:23:45] <lurker69> that was in Philippines, movie and ambrose?

[2012-05-17 16:23:49] <anon> thanks for clearing that u, youre patience is appreciated

[2012-05-17 16:24:09] <C1UCharon> PI, yeah.

[2012-05-17 16:24:25] <C1UCharon> No problem, anon.

[2012-05-17 16:24:37] <lurker69> and this wasnt military exercise but real mission?

[2012-05-17 16:24:55] <lurker69> and there are no news reports about it?

[2012-05-17 16:25:30] <C1UCharon> Ever heard anything about operation Pegasus Bridge?

[2012-05-17 16:25:50] <K38> isnt that in WWII

[2012-05-17 16:25:52] <C1UCharon> How about continuing Force Recon involvement in Mindanao province?

[2012-05-17 16:25:58] <lurker69> not really but i know that alot of dirt stuff happens in secrecy

[2012-05-17 16:25:59] <C1UCharon> Nope. It was four years ago.

[2012-05-17 16:26:07] <C1UCharon> Too true, Lurk.

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[2012-05-17 16:27:13] <K38> "Pegasus Bridge (pont Pégase) est un nom de code qu'a reçu pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale le pont

de Bénouville" = Pegasus Bridge is a code name during WWII concerning the bridge of "Bénouville". My bad.

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[2012-05-17 16:29:18] <C1UCharon> No big deal.

[2012-05-17 16:29:24] <lurker69> A 10 are nice; seems that US has some firepower now, but when they were bombing Serbia in 90s they

were inefficient as hell, well it was NATO not USMC

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[2012-05-17 16:30:21] <C1UCharon> Their employment as a strafing support for ground troops is invaluable at times.

[2012-05-17 16:30:37] <C1UCharon> The shock value is definitely there. The profile of the machine makes it obvious that you're

about to deal with something bad.

[2012-05-17 16:30:51] <C1UCharon> That being said, the job could be as easily done by the Hercules.

[2012-05-17 16:31:22] <C1UCharon> Stepping off. I'll be back on station shortly.

[2012-05-17 23:28:20] <C1UCharon> Back

[2012-05-17 23:28:30] <C1UCharon> File one is decoded?

[2012-05-17 23:28:43] <i3> I think so

[2012-05-17 23:28:47] <i3> it did come out all as names

[2012-05-17 23:28:48] <C1UCharon> Hit me.

[2012-05-17 23:28:55] <i3> the question is if it's the right ones

[2012-05-17 23:29:02] <i3> miyaki takeshi

[2012-05-17 23:29:02] <i3> kayaka sun

[2012-05-17 23:29:02] <i3> moshihoso akira

[2012-05-17 23:29:02] <i3> ikeishi moshi

[2012-05-17 23:29:02] <i3> nakamura kewo

[2012-05-17 23:29:02] <i3> yamashi araki

[2012-05-17 23:29:02] <i3> shihoshi araki

[2012-05-17 23:29:02] <i3> matsuhoso hiteki

[2012-05-17 23:29:02] <i3> kikaya howo

[2012-05-17 23:29:40] <i3> Almost all of those were common enough first names...

[2012-05-17 23:29:41] <anon> wht virgil say?

[2012-05-17 23:29:43] <Maya2> is that all the EN transmission is? just names? no words?

[2012-05-17 23:29:54] <i3> there's file 2 maya

[2012-05-17 23:30:27] <C1UCharon> Araki?

[2012-05-17 23:30:41] <C1UCharon> I think that's legit, Ill.

[2012-05-17 23:30:52] <Kelgand> /patontheback

[2012-05-17 23:31:00] <i3> Wow, great.

[2012-05-17 23:31:11] <anon> hell yeah!

[2012-05-17 23:31:23] <anon> you think or you know? confirm

[2012-05-17 23:31:37] <i3> If I'd been going the reverse, it would have been the first I tried...

[2012-05-17 23:31:40] <i3> That's funny.

[2012-05-17 23:31:50] <i3> It was shifted one back guys

[2012-05-17 23:32:10] <C1UCharon> I'll begin cross checking now.

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[2012-05-17 23:32:19] <Kelgand> That would mean our name would not be "it is butt first", then.

[2012-05-17 23:32:25] <lurker69> one back...

[2012-05-17 23:32:26] <Maya2> lmao

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[2012-05-17 23:32:37] <Kelgand> :ALPHA MINUS ONE

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[2012-05-17 23:32:49] <Kelgand> Again.... Virgil = En.

[2012-05-17 23:33:01] <jessie_> Wonderfull.

[2012-05-17 23:33:43] <anon> virgil is en?

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[2012-05-17 23:33:52] <C1UCharon> Virgil's not EN.

[2012-05-17 23:34:10] <C1UCharon> Some of your teammates are covering their sift in tinfoil and wearing it.

[2012-05-17 23:34:22] <i3> lol no. they just have both used the simplest cipher

[2012-05-17 23:34:25] <anon> next time you talk to her tell her sift says hello

[2012-05-17 23:34:26] <i3> at least once

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[2012-05-17 23:34:38] <Maya2> ya guys im not your enemy

[2012-05-17 23:34:47] <C1UCharon> Hah

[2012-05-17 23:34:48] <Kelgand> Maya = Virgil = EN

[2012-05-17 23:34:57] <Kelgand> = IRC Umbra.

[2012-05-17 23:35:02] <Kelgand> = Charon?

[2012-05-17 23:35:08] <anon> wait what?

[2012-05-17 23:35:14] <Kelgand> Incumbra.

[2012-05-17 23:35:20] <Maya2> the jigs up

[2012-05-17 23:35:20] <i3> Anyone wanna see if file two is alpha -1/

[2012-05-17 23:35:21] <anon> cucumbra

[2012-05-17 23:35:22] <Maya2> u won the game

[2012-05-17 23:35:24] <Maya2> congrats

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[2012-05-17 23:35:54] <jeebus_> And fuck that, yes our slogan is "it is butt first!"

[2012-05-17 23:36:04] <lurker69> well put that damn t36 through alpha-one, i want to see that A or THE WHISPERER

[2012-05-17 23:36:55] <i3> Man, go for it. I just did 47 combinations of file 1 by hand

[2012-05-17 23:37:01] <i3> I'm taking a break to eat

[2012-05-17 23:37:06] <lurker69>

[2012-05-17 23:37:20] <C1UCharon> Checking those names, Ill. Have a good break.

[2012-05-17 23:37:30] <i3> Ha, thanks Charon

[2012-05-17 23:37:31] <C1UCharon> Well done with all that.

[2012-05-17 23:37:38] <Maya2> ill ur amazing, im gonna make u a tinfoil crown

[2012-05-17 23:37:46] <lurker69> oh you are doing it by hand.... go rest then sorry, i was thinking about scripts...

[2012-05-17 23:37:50] <i3> Lol! Thanks maya

[2012-05-17 23:38:08] <i3> Yeah lurker, I'm not at a computer that's easy to program with

[2012-05-17 23:38:49] <lurker69> nicely done, old school

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[2012-05-17 23:39:46] <Kelgand> Is vthere a copy of the grid you used somewhere?

[2012-05-17 23:40:01] <i3> On the docs. I used the hiragana chart

[2012-05-17 23:40:12] <i3> and just treated it like a one dimensional array

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[2012-05-17 23:40:17] <i3> ignoring the spaces

[2012-05-17 23:41:03] <i3> I'm gonna be out for a few to eat. I'll leave this open, so any more questions, just use my

name and the phone'll alert me

[2012-05-17 23:43:28] <Kelgand> i3: 63 = 6 across or six down?

[2012-05-17 23:44:20] <i3> I wa going across. i = a, a = n, me = mu and such

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[2012-05-17 23:45:23] <Kelgand> i = a? You have to be using a different grid then O-o

[2012-05-17 23:45:38] <i3> the one on the docs

[2012-05-17 23:45:49] <i3> first line is a i u e o

[2012-05-17 23:46:00] <i3> so o is e, e = u

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[2012-05-17 23:46:18] <i3> Are you using the i ro ha?

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[2012-05-17 23:46:30] <i3> I was using the full alphabet

[2012-05-17 23:46:37] <lurker69>

[2012-05-17 23:46:46] <lurker69> not i ro ha but right one

[2012-05-17 23:46:53] <lurker69> alphabet yes

[2012-05-17 23:47:00] <lurker69> i ddidnt try that

[2012-05-17 23:47:28] <i3> ah. I assumed just the i ro ha wouldn't make much in modern language

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[2012-05-17 23:50:11] <Kelgand> There is no grid other than the i ro ha on the docs.

[2012-05-17 23:52:57] <C1UCharon> Stepping off. On station in a couple of hours.

[2012-05-18 02:44:47] <C1UCharon> Limited intel report follows.

[2012-05-18 02:45:45] <anon> mr.chi-ku owns a fiber otic comany in korea

[2012-05-18 02:46:11] <C1UCharon> MIYAGI TAKESHI

[2012-05-18 02:46:12] <C1UCharon> 20 YEAR OLD MALE

[2012-05-18 02:46:14] <C1UCharon> TAXI DRIVER





[2012-05-18 02:47:00] <i3> That certainly sounds like your guy, Charon

[2012-05-18 02:47:42] <C1UCharon> Sure does. Let's see if he squeals like my guy. I've got last known location on this cat, and I'm

moving to engage in 15.

[2012-05-18 02:48:08] <i3> Good luck Charon

[2012-05-18 02:48:42] <C1UCharon> Thankyathankya. As usual, chest-cam will tell the story when I get back. WHEN.

[2012-05-18 02:48:56] <anon> godspeed m'lord

[2012-05-18 02:49:15] <anon> we will await your valient return

[2012-05-18 02:49:30] <C1UCharon> Much appreciated. Stepping out, PCCs and PCIs. Stay classy, SIFT.

[2012-05-18 02:50:40] <anon> somebody recently watched anchorman

[2012-05-18 02:52:12] <anon> Hatsu one clause to the child by it to one tooth there and then I immediately party ha

[2012-05-18 02:52:34] <i3> lol

[2012-05-18 02:56:35] <lurker69> that shoul be more like it

[2012-05-18 02:57:09] <i3> Yeah

[2012-05-18 02:57:11] <i3> that looks right

[2012-05-18 03:00:40] <lurker69> 56 46 72 22 ue hara

[2012-05-18 03:00:42] <lurker69>

[2012-05-18 03:00:53] <lurker69> translating is tstill pain in the ass

[2012-05-18 03:02:04] <C1UCharon> Alright, set to roll. Moving to contact HVT. Reporting ASAP.

[2012-05-18 03:02:20] <C1UCharon> Out.

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[2012-05-18 05:29:59] <anon> charon!

[2012-05-18 05:30:07] <i3> Welcome back, charon

[2012-05-18 05:30:34] <C1UCharon> One sad motherfucker in custody, no friendly casualties. High visibility incident. Video won't be

going live just yet.

[2012-05-18 05:31:17] <anon> boo

[2012-05-18 05:31:20] <i3> so, it went well then

[2012-05-18 05:31:39] <C1UCharon> Like fucking clockwork.

[2012-05-18 05:31:53] <anon> i waited u for this shit?

[2012-05-18 05:31:57] <anon> lol

[2012-05-18 05:32:07] <i3> Think you'll get what you need from him?

[2012-05-18 05:32:21] <kluge> i3, so this table in the docs is correct?

[2012-05-18 05:32:24] <kluge> that's all you need?

[2012-05-18 05:32:26] <C1UCharon> I sure will. I sure, sure will.

[2012-05-18 05:32:58] <i3> I think so, I didn't make it, lurker did based on what I did. I did it by hand, but I think his

table will work to, kluge

[2012-05-18 05:33:12] <kluge> oh ok

[2012-05-18 05:33:20] <i3> We did some work on the other file while you were out. Got a few places to start

[2012-05-18 05:33:27] <kluge> nice

[2012-05-18 05:33:54] <i3> Ever heard of a place called Uehara?

[2012-05-18 05:34:23] <kluge> me? no

[2012-05-18 05:34:31] <kluge> it's a surname isn't it

[2012-05-18 05:34:36] <i3> anyone, now that it's more then anon and I talking

[2012-05-18 05:34:46] <i3> There's two places called it

[2012-05-18 05:34:52] <begedele> Hi Charon. Great news on the subject in custody.

[2012-05-18 05:35:00] <i3> one's part of the train line that got sarin gassed

[2012-05-18 05:35:06] <i3> the other's in okinawa prefecture

[2012-05-18 05:35:10] <begedele> Got anything out of him yet?

[2012-05-18 05:35:28] <C1UCharon> Just barely got his ass up the steps. Beef and Skip are working on him now.

[2012-05-18 05:35:45] <i3> You work with guys called beef and skip?

[2012-05-18 05:35:52] <C1UCharon> Wanted to share the news. The mark's been taken into custody, via sleeping bag.

[2012-05-18 05:36:00] <C1UCharon> Yeah. Part of the team.

[2012-05-18 05:36:08] <i3> I don't know why, that makes me smile

[2012-05-18 05:36:38] <i3> Well, glad it went so damn smoothly

[2012-05-18 05:36:43] <C1UCharon> Personal callsigns get silly when you say them together. We've also got Clap and Alamo.

[2012-05-18 05:37:19] <i3> I guess that's callsigns for you though

[2012-05-18 05:37:27] <C1UCharon> Yeah.

[2012-05-18 05:37:35] <kluge> just translated that last file, it almost sounds like counting

[2012-05-18 05:37:51] <i3> So, what exactly do you mean by high visibility incident?

[2012-05-18 05:38:03] <i3> as in witnesses?

[2012-05-18 05:38:27] <anon> does onox-ku mean anything?

[2012-05-18 05:38:58] <i3> anon, I don't think so. I looked it up and it seemed to be just a wierd association with a

title the translator did

[2012-05-18 05:39:01] <C1UCharon> I mean I asked the man for directions, handed him my map, smashed him in the dick and smashed his

throat. That's when Skip grabbed him, pulled him back into the alley and choked him out. Then, he went into a sleeping bag, got

zip-tied and gagged, and got thrown into my backseat just as I pulled up.

[2012-05-18 05:39:20] <i3> Haha

[2012-05-18 05:39:31] <i3> so high visibility

[2012-05-18 05:39:43] <C1UCharon> Pretty fuckin' high. There are people walking around in the video.

[2012-05-18 05:39:51] <anon> hmm

[2012-05-18 05:40:10] <i3> So I guess we hope he talks before word gets back?

[2012-05-18 05:40:17] <i3> Unless you'd prefer them scared

[2012-05-18 05:40:27] <C1UCharon> Scared is okay for me.

[2012-05-18 05:40:59] <i3> Scared is cautious, typically, so it may mean they don't act on much for now

[2012-05-18 05:41:02] <C1UCharon> One way or another, this is one down. We'll have to act on the intel he gives right away. Shit

sandwich there, as we don't know much Japanese. The terp will have to mediate.

[2012-05-18 05:41:39] <i3> Damn. That won't be an easy way of doing things

[2012-05-18 05:42:44] <C1UCharon> Yeah. I figure I hit him with a phonebook for awhile and he'll eventually say something.

[2012-05-18 05:42:56] <i3> Glad to see that's still the plan

[2012-05-18 05:42:58] <C1UCharon> Or he won't, and I hit him for a while longer with a phonebook.

[2012-05-18 05:43:22] <begedele> Try the Yellow Pages...

[2012-05-18 05:43:37] <anon> :( all that does is make them say anything to get you to sto

[2012-05-18 05:43:40] <C1UCharon> Based on what you've got in those two files we picked up in the drop, is there anything you'd

like me to ask this prick?

[2012-05-18 05:43:49] <i3> hmm

[2012-05-18 05:43:58] <i3> Uehara

[2012-05-18 05:43:58] <C1UCharon> Yeah, anon. That's true.

[2012-05-18 05:44:04] <i3> we think it's a place

[2012-05-18 05:44:05] <C1UCharon> I'm just uh, not going to stop.

[2012-05-18 05:44:08] <i3> one of two places

[2012-05-18 05:44:15] <anon> who went to the dentist?

[2012-05-18 05:44:18] <i3> we don't know which they could mean though

[2012-05-18 05:44:34] <C1UCharon> Uehara?

[2012-05-18 05:44:40] <i3> it could be the subaway line they tried to gas in tokyo, or part of an island a little south of

you charon

[2012-05-18 05:44:44] <C1UCharon> You got it. Be right back.

[2012-05-18 05:44:53] <anon> what did this guy do?

[2012-05-18 05:44:56] <i3> they both have that name, and it's definatly in there

[2012-05-18 05:45:42] <i3> Was one of these enemy couriers we were tracking down, anon

[2012-05-18 05:46:04] <anon> so he just trasorted?

[2012-05-18 05:46:20] <i3> maybe

[2012-05-18 05:46:39] <i3> Charon said his name comes up pretty often in association with these guys

[2012-05-18 05:46:48] <i3> this was time 5 or something like that

[2012-05-18 05:47:11] <anon> so its like if one of us was caught then beaten for info.... we'd die i guess

[2012-05-18 05:47:25] <C1UCharon> Uehara's a person.

[2012-05-18 05:47:31] <i3> that was option three

[2012-05-18 05:47:43] <C1UCharon> What kind, where from, how important...Don't know, yet.

[2012-05-18 05:47:48] <i3> just not the one I expected

[2012-05-18 05:48:01] <i3> well it is a surname there

[2012-05-18 05:48:11] <begedele> Could you try to get more info on that name, like a first name?

[2012-05-18 05:48:13] <anon> bad...Uehara Even you shall be destroyed

[2012-05-18 05:48:24] <i3> there's a few famous people with it, so it won't be easy to look up

[2012-05-18 05:48:45] <C1UCharon> Is that a bit of Oda, there?

[2012-05-18 05:48:50] <i3> but I guess we see if we can get more from the text.

[2012-05-18 05:48:59] <i3> That's what we've been led to believe

[2012-05-18 05:49:15] <i3> it doesn't seem to mesh up perfectly, but it's the best we've got so far

[2012-05-18 05:49:25] <C1UCharon> Bit of a famous name then, eh?

[2012-05-18 05:49:51] <begedele> yes there are several Ueharas

[2012-05-18 05:49:54] <C1UCharon> What do you have to work with so far, off of the second document?

[2012-05-18 05:50:33] <begedele> Uehara Tokiyotaiichinuu wo ne Shi u tsu ha tsu shi u u i chi i shi ha wo na ho To u chi a ku

shi u tsu ha tsu ha tsu i shi ha wo ko he

[2012-05-18 05:50:44] <i3> We have that that is the first line, it may mention tokyo but seems to spell it wrong, so

that's unlikely. We've had one claim that it's a misformed piece of a quote

[2012-05-18 05:50:59] <C1UCharon> Using the same shift we used earlier, Ill?

[2012-05-18 05:51:05] <i3> yeah

[2012-05-18 05:51:11] <kluge> begedele, I think those are numbers following tokyo tai blah

[2012-05-18 05:51:13] <C1UCharon> Solid.

[2012-05-18 05:51:31] <kluge> at least some of it

[2012-05-18 05:51:34] <begedele> Maybe it's a date

[2012-05-18 05:51:38] <kluge> or an address

[2012-05-18 05:51:41] <kluge> or train line

[2012-05-18 05:51:58] <C1UCharon> Tokyotaiichi^

[2012-05-18 05:52:05] <C1UCharon> Tokyo Daiichi is a hotel out here.

[2012-05-18 05:52:08] <kluge> tokyodaiichi

[2012-05-18 05:52:11] <i3> is it?

[2012-05-18 05:52:13] <kluge> yes

[2012-05-18 05:52:14] <begedele> maybe room number then

[2012-05-18 05:52:16] <C1UCharon> It's also on the side of the blue taxis. "Daiichi"

[2012-05-18 05:52:20] <kluge> yes

[2012-05-18 05:52:23] <i3> That's in there

[2012-05-18 05:52:30] <i3> it's not modified to d

[2012-05-18 05:52:34] <kluge> gotta remember that we don't got the uh...little diacritic whatever they're called

[2012-05-18 05:52:40] <i3> but neither was anything else

[2012-05-18 05:52:42] <kluge> we only have the base chars

[2012-05-18 05:52:46] <C1UCharon> If you have a room number, please let me know. I'm going to go ask Miyagi about it and see if

he's a liar.

[2012-05-18 05:52:56] <C1UCharon> I'd be pretty upset if he were a liar.

[2012-05-18 05:53:13] <kluge> i3, iroha doesn't give you da de ga pa ba etc.

[2012-05-18 05:53:20] <i3> I know

[2012-05-18 05:53:24] <kluge> o ok

[2012-05-18 05:53:27] <i3> that's what I was talking about

[2012-05-18 05:54:50] <i3> anyone getting any numbers out of it that aren't one?

[2012-05-18 05:55:33] <i3> there were numbers outside the bounds of i ro ha in the incorrect pastebin...

[2012-05-18 05:56:35] <kluge> I think that was due to one digit of one pair that didn't fully get pasted being up against 2 digits

of a second paste of the same thing

[2012-05-18 05:56:50] <i3> it was also twice as long though

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[2012-05-18 05:59:49] <kluge> yeah I think it was that it got pasted twice

[2012-05-18 06:00:00] <kluge> but I'll look

[2012-05-18 06:00:18] <anon> didnt 48 come u earlier

[2012-05-18 06:00:40] <i3> someone want to run file 2 back through? I think I f'ed up on the second line

[2012-05-18 06:00:46] <i3> Too long since I've slept

[2012-05-18 06:00:47] <i3> lol

[2012-05-18 06:01:22] <kluge> I ran it through and put it in the docs

[2012-05-18 06:01:46] <i3> pasted it over the old ones?

[2012-05-18 06:02:00] <kluge> Uehara

[2012-05-18 06:02:00] <kluge> Tokyo Daiichi shi u u shi wa

[2012-05-18 06:02:00] <kluge> shi u tsu ha tsu shi u u i chi i shi ha wa na ho

[2012-05-18 06:02:00] <kluge> to u chi a ku shi u tsu ha tsu i shi ha wa ko he

[2012-05-18 06:02:13] <kluge> just in front of them in the docs, didn't get rid of the others

[2012-05-18 06:02:23] <i3> yeah

[2012-05-18 06:02:26] <i3> mine was wrong

[2012-05-18 06:02:29] <i3> damn

[2012-05-18 06:02:57] <kluge> did you want my python script

[2012-05-18 06:03:00] <kluge> might be useful again

[2012-05-18 06:03:03] <anon> do you have it in kanji?

[2012-05-18 06:03:19] <i3> no, thanks kluge, and sadly no anon

[2012-05-18 06:04:26] <anon> ah

[2012-05-18 06:05:11] <begedele> Tokyo Dai-Ichi Hotel Okinawa Grand Mer Resort - Okinawa City

[2012-05-18 06:05:35] <i3> Uehara

[2012-05-18 06:05:35] <i3> Mr. Uu is the Daiichi Tokiyo

[2012-05-18 06:05:35] <i3> Will complement the city is one I will I will I Tsu Chi

[2012-05-18 06:05:35] <i3> Mr. Lee would use one is one phrase to core capital will immediately?

[2012-05-18 06:05:56] <i3> that's what I got, but don't trust it

[2012-05-18 06:06:07] <i3> the names are it misunderstanding

[2012-05-18 06:06:10] <i3> but no numbers

[2012-05-18 06:06:24] <begedele> Mr. Uehara is in the Daiichi Tokiyo maybe?

[2012-05-18 06:06:40] <i3> Yeah, it'll be saying that

[2012-05-18 06:07:26] <C1UCharon> Stepping out, all. Will make contact soon.

[2012-05-18 06:07:39] <begedele> Maybe they give you the room number if you ask them nicely with a telephone book

[2012-05-18 06:07:46] <begedele> stay safe Charon

[2012-05-18 06:08:05] <C1UCharon> Haha. I got a chuckle out of that one.

[2012-05-18 06:08:07] <anon> im going to bed yalls see ya later, and good luck

[2012-05-18 06:08:22] <C1UCharon> I'll be sure to provide the book for numeral reference.

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[2012-05-18 15:39:34] <i3_> Morning Charon

[2012-05-18 15:39:46] <C1UCharon> Morning, Ill

[2012-05-18 15:39:54] <C1UCharon> You remember this Ueahara cat, right?

[2012-05-18 15:40:17] <i3_> yeah, I've been looking into that. Got something on him for us?

[2012-05-18 15:40:18] <C1UCharon> That one we talked about last night?

[2012-05-18 15:40:27] <C1UCharon> Yeah, you're gonna love this shit.

[2012-05-18 15:40:40] <Sorgens> Do you have a vid of the interrogation or something?

[2012-05-18 15:40:44] <C1UCharon> Uehara is responsible for bringing about "Lord Shiba"'s return

[2012-05-18 15:40:58] <C1UCharon> Not yet Sorg, lot of work to do still

[2012-05-18 15:41:18] <C1UCharon> Lord Shiba has to return before "the final apparition"

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[2012-05-18 15:42:08] <C1UCharon> I think Shiba is Asahara. Of the Shouko variety.

[2012-05-18 15:42:14] <i3_> Wow. ok.

[2012-05-18 15:42:28] <i3_> So I was better of when I was looking at the mythical sense at first

[2012-05-18 15:42:40] <C1UCharon> Yeah, buddy.

[2012-05-18 15:43:31] <i3_> Well... damn. That's something to look at. I guess I need to read some more about all that

shiba stuff then

[2012-05-18 15:43:53] <Maya21> maybe i can help? what are u looking for

[2012-05-18 15:44:07] <i3_> We've finally got a translator on your file 2, and the intel from t36

[2012-05-18 15:44:12] <C1UCharon> This cat squealed off about Uehara catching a flight today at around 11, down in Naha. We've got

Skip and Clap rolling that way now. Intel's trying to get us a picture of the motherfucker.

[2012-05-18 15:44:42] <i3_> So, new leadership? mabe?

[2012-05-18 15:44:50] <i3_> maybe*

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[2012-05-18 15:45:50] <C1UCharon> If he's trying to get Asahara back, I don't think he's all that new. Probably one of the older,

more trusted sorts in the organization.

[2012-05-18 15:46:01] <i3_> Yeah.

[2012-05-18 15:46:15] <C1UCharon> Probably really likes violence. Or at least, he does until we find him.

[2012-05-18 15:46:21] <i3_> Do we have any idea if Uehara is a codename, or a real name?

[2012-05-18 15:46:44] <i3_> I was looking into a japanese scientist named Uehara yesterday

[2012-05-18 15:46:46] <C1UCharon> Like you said, it's a surname, but a semi-famous one. It could be either at this point in time.

[2012-05-18 15:46:49] <kluge> did you get the list of names from file1 already

[2012-05-18 15:47:19] <C1UCharon> Yeah, crossed them with some other lists to generate our current HVT hierarchy.

[2012-05-18 15:48:56] <kluge> was any of your names Uchikawa?

[2012-05-18 15:49:14] <anon__> do shiba or shiva?

[2012-05-18 15:49:19] <C1UCharon> Neg, no Kawas

[2012-05-18 15:49:35] <C1UCharon> Could be Shiva, but the Japanese don't really have a V sound.

[2012-05-18 15:50:03] <kluge> uchigawa?

[2012-05-18 15:50:49] <C1UCharon> No dice. I don't even really have any Uchi sorts.

[2012-05-18 15:51:11] <i3_> Isn't the name list on the docs kluge?

[2012-05-18 15:51:23] <kluge> yeah

[2012-05-18 15:51:31] <kluge> but this appeared in the 36 transmission

[2012-05-18 15:51:40] <kluge> looked like a name but it might not be

[2012-05-18 15:52:03] <i3_> So the best connection I've got for an Uehara and Aleph has some ambiguity...

[2012-05-18 15:53:07] <i3_> I've got an email from 2000 between a bunch of phycists, one an uehara that mention Aleph. But

the Aleph collider was running then, so it could be unrelated

[2012-05-18 15:54:13] <i3_> So, anything else important you get from him?

[2012-05-18 15:54:28] <i3_> We still don't have a number for you in relation to the tokiyodaiichi

[2012-05-18 15:54:46] <C1UCharon> Yeah. He kept saying he was just a messenger, like that disqualified him from knowing things

[2012-05-18 15:55:08] <i3_> Heh. Of course.

[2012-05-18 15:55:25] <C1UCharon> When we got around to asking him about his taxi and the types of things he transported, he

mentioned that he was required to transport US personnel in particular to Tsuji.

[2012-05-18 15:55:57] <C1UCharon> Then we hurt him for awhile and he spilled his guts on taking them only to the "Cream Play Spot"

we were talking about. We already knew this bit, but it's good to have confirmation.

[2012-05-18 15:56:13] <i3_> Yeah. Anything on who got him to do it?

[2012-05-18 15:56:15] <kluge> hurt him for awhile?

[2012-05-18 15:56:46] <C1UCharon> Not exactly. He mentioned what we think are callsigns for different people in the organization,

similar to the lord Shiba bit.

[2012-05-18 15:57:04] <i3_> Yeah

[2012-05-18 15:57:08] <C1UCharon> Have you all stumbled upon anything like that in the files?

[2012-05-18 15:58:15] <i3_> Hmm. t36 has a lot on messages or "whispers" from heaven, so if it's in, it'll most likey be


[2012-05-18 15:58:17] <kluge> tenshi perhaps in the transmission

[2012-05-18 15:58:30] <kluge> tengoku kara no sasaya yeah

[2012-05-18 15:58:34] <kluge> also kami, god

[2012-05-18 15:58:42] <C1UCharon> Tenshi? That's Angel, if I remember correctly. "Heaven Person".

[2012-05-18 15:58:43] <kluge> some reference to angels maybe, and leaping from heaven

[2012-05-18 15:58:45] <kluge> yeah

[2012-05-18 15:59:01] <kluge> or being kicked

[2012-05-18 15:59:06] <kluge> my japanese is not good enough to tell

[2012-05-18 15:59:17] <C1UCharon> Good intel either way.

[2012-05-18 16:00:13] <i3_> Also there's a section in file 2

[2012-05-18 16:00:28] <i3_> that didn't make sense, Shi Ha comes up twice

[2012-05-18 16:00:41] <i3_> That can be Shi Ba if we're missing the modifiers again

[2012-05-18 16:00:53] <kluge> yeah, I thought those were parts numbers at first

[2012-05-18 16:01:00] <kluge> parts of

[2012-05-18 16:01:05] <i3_> me too

[2012-05-18 16:01:18] <kluge> then I realized we have yu so what is the u u ?

[2012-05-18 16:01:29] <kluge> shi uu i shi/chi

[2012-05-18 16:01:41] <anon__> In fact, the Aleph's Lord Shiva (also known as Samantabhadra, Kuntu-Zangpo, or Adi-Buddha) derives

from Tibetan Vajrayana tradition and has no connection to the Hindu Shiva.

[2012-05-18 16:01:49] <C1UCharon> Sasaya is whisperer, right?

[2012-05-18 16:01:53] <kluge> yes

[2012-05-18 16:02:31] <C1UCharon> Tengoku kara no sasayah:

[2012-05-18 16:02:36] <C1UCharon> Tengoku = Heaven.

[2012-05-18 16:02:51] <kluge> yes

[2012-05-18 16:02:53] <C1UCharon> Kara is a "from" kind of word, no being the joiner to Sasayah

[2012-05-18 16:02:59] <i3_> right

[2012-05-18 16:03:03] <C1UCharon> Whisperers from Heaven

[2012-05-18 16:03:04] <kluge> whispers out of heaven

[2012-05-18 16:03:05] <C1UCharon> Night Ill

[2012-05-18 16:03:06] <kluge> yes

[2012-05-18 16:03:13] <i3_> ?

[2012-05-18 16:03:22] <kluge> he thought you said 'night', not right

[2012-05-18 16:03:25] <kluge> misread

[2012-05-18 16:03:31] <i3_> haha

[2012-05-18 16:03:33] <i3_> oh

[2012-05-18 16:03:35] <C1UCharon> oh shit hah

[2012-05-18 16:03:50] <C1UCharon> Sorry man. Vision's all blurry. Been up about all night.

[2012-05-18 16:04:00] <i3_> Yeah, I get that

[2012-05-18 16:04:38] <i3_> So at least we know our whisper from heavan angle was right

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[2012-05-18 16:07:27] <i3_> Alright, so as usual we need to get those things translated, but you've told us with that that

it really was the same shift for all the files

[2012-05-18 16:07:39] <i3_> All the right words are popping up

[2012-05-18 16:07:50] <i3_> Anything else he's said we should know?

[2012-05-18 16:10:20] <C1UCharon> Not right off. Some of it doesn't make sense. As anon said last night, he'll reach a point where

he'll say anything.

[2012-05-18 16:10:30] <C1UCharon> I'm going to vet this stuff before I send it on.

[2012-05-18 16:10:44] <i3_> Yeah, that's probably safe

[2012-05-18 16:10:51] <kluge> so

[2012-05-18 16:10:56] <i3_> So we don't run off researching the wrong direction

[2012-05-18 16:11:18] <kluge> are you going to be putting all your interrogations into enhanced mode?

[2012-05-18 16:11:35] <C1UCharon> Enhanced mode? I don't follow

[2012-05-18 16:11:43] <kluge> 'enhanced interrogations'

[2012-05-18 16:12:15] <kluge> I'm using the more digestible term for torture

[2012-05-18 16:12:17] <C1UCharon> If you're utilization of foreign objects, then yeah. Haven't heard that term before.

[2012-05-18 16:12:39] <kluge> ok

[2012-05-18 16:12:44] <kluge> you haven't?

[2012-05-18 16:12:54] <C1UCharon> Nope.

[2012-05-18 16:13:07] <kluge> it's a disgusting term

[2012-05-18 16:13:19] <C1UCharon> Sounds like it. They've got a few sterilized terms like that.

[2012-05-18 16:13:27] <kluge>

[2012-05-18 16:16:03] <jeebus_> Why does enhanced interrogation techniques offend me more than torture.

[2012-05-18 16:17:05] <kluge> because it puts a thin veneer of legitimacy to a reprehensible practice

[2012-05-18 16:17:15] <kluge> politicians <3

[2012-05-18 16:17:16] <Sorgens> Water boarding is effective, right?

[2012-05-18 16:17:45] <C1UCharon> Water boarding sucks

[2012-05-18 16:17:45] <kluge> it is similarly effective, insofar as the results are unreliable

[2012-05-18 16:18:03] <C1UCharon> The key in interrogation isn't to rely on hurting the person.

[2012-05-18 16:18:04] <kluge> put people in enough distress, any kind of distress, and they will do anything to get out of it

[2012-05-18 16:18:23] <C1UCharon> You do that just to make it real in their minds, when you need to. Or, conversely, if you hate

the motherfucker and want him to hurt.

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[2012-05-18 16:19:06] <C1UCharon> Everything else has to be legitimate skill. Deception detection. Expression, tone, subject

matter. Rapport building and breaking down.

[2012-05-18 16:19:23] <C1UCharon> Build a baseline around the speed at which he answers.

[2012-05-18 16:19:39] <C1UCharon> "What's your name" should garner a fast response. He knows the answer, knows the true answer.

[2012-05-18 16:20:01] <C1UCharon> Once he pops that and a few more easy ones, you judge the way he answers truthfully. Any wild

expressions? Is he expressive, or generally neutral?

[2012-05-18 16:20:11] <C1UCharon> Then give him something to think about.

[2012-05-18 16:20:26] <C1UCharon> Ask him a hard one. If he pauses, even for a second to think about what you've asked, hurt him.

[2012-05-18 16:21:08] <C1UCharon> Directly following this, ask again and judge facial reaction. (Stay away from the face and head

as a general rule, or an experienced individual will use blows to the head as a good reason to wiggle out of answering).

[2012-05-18 16:22:57] <jeebus_> You mean feign a concussion or something?

[2012-05-18 16:23:08] <C1UCharon> Yeah.

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[2012-05-18 16:24:18] <i3_> So... not to really change the subject, but I could only find one really public Aum - Uehara

connection. There was a cabinet minister Kosuke Uehara serving when the aum trials were happening. He spoke about them pretty

often. He was in charge of okinawan land develpoment

[2012-05-18 16:26:41] <i3_> Aparently he's recently been part of some fights back and forth about building US military

bases in okinawa.

[2012-05-18 16:26:52] <i3_> Could be related. I'll dig some more

[2012-05-18 16:28:40] <i3_> So what're you planning to do with this guy now, Charon? how long are you and yours gonna hang

on to him there?

[2012-05-18 16:29:59] <C1UCharon> Don't know if you want to hear that one, Ill.

[2012-05-18 16:30:35] <i3_> Hah. I was curious, but if it's best not to talk about I'll understand

[2012-05-18 16:30:50] <C1UCharon> I'll give you a private shout in a bit.

[2012-05-18 16:30:59] <Maya21> ur gonna kill him?

[2012-05-18 16:31:13] <kluge> yeah, what?

[2012-05-18 16:31:20] <jeebus_> He's gonna go live on a nice farm with Charons friends

[2012-05-18 16:31:23] <i3_> sounds good

[2012-05-18 16:31:30] <jeebus_> Plenty of room to run...

[2012-05-18 16:31:31] <kluge> sounds bad

[2012-05-18 16:31:35] <jeebus_> Play.

[2012-05-18 16:32:01] <jeebus_> Other cult members to bang boards against his head with...

[2012-05-18 16:32:33] <i3_> Lol jeebus_

[2012-05-18 16:33:16] <C1UCharon> Jeeb, you weren't supposed to tell them

[2012-05-18 16:33:27] <jeebus_> He'll love it. Don't you worry about it.

[2012-05-18 16:33:32] <C1UCharon> Yeah guys, I'm starting a detainee farm

[2012-05-18 16:33:52] <jeebus_> Oops. Sorry. Spoiled the surprise.

[2012-05-18 16:33:57] <kluge> well jokes aside, what happens to guy?

[2012-05-18 16:34:11] <anon__> you need a dont feed the animals sign

[2012-05-18 16:34:30] <C1UCharon> I let him go tell his buddies what I asked him about.

[2012-05-18 16:35:02] <jeebus_> And then every other HVT disappears...

[2012-05-18 16:35:09] <C1UCharon> But for real, I'm going to hold his forehead back and slam my fist into the base of his skull.

[2012-05-18 16:35:33] <kluge> so no straight answers then

[2012-05-18 16:36:04] <C1UCharon> That last one seemed pretty straight

[2012-05-18 16:36:16] <kluge> okay

[2012-05-18 16:36:49] <C1UCharon> Likelihood is that, if we can get support on this, he'll be received by a detention team that

will roll him up and keep him at least until all of this is over.

[2012-05-18 16:37:04] <C1UCharon> No one who knew him will have contact with him, and he'll probably suffer every day he's a

[2012-05-18 16:37:10] <C1UCharon> alive. Fucking enter key.

[2012-05-18 16:37:28] <C1UCharon> They'll question him daily and probably keep him awake for the majority of the night.

[2012-05-18 16:37:48] <C1UCharon> Best case scenario for this guy.

[2012-05-18 16:38:08] <Maya21> was this the taxi driver HVT?

[2012-05-18 16:38:19] <C1UCharon> Yeah. One of 'em. Don't know if there's more.

[2012-05-18 16:38:25] <i3_> Actually, that's better then I expected

[2012-05-18 16:39:01] <C1UCharon> He's a courier. A douchebag, yeah, involved in some nasty stuff, true.

[2012-05-18 16:39:09] <C1UCharon> But he got his ass beat for all that.

[2012-05-18 16:39:48] <C1UCharon> No reason to smoke the motherfucker (aside from the mental aspect of this whole thing).

[2012-05-18 16:40:02] <Maya21> dont know y hes in all of this

[2012-05-18 16:40:19] <C1UCharon> He handles info. We like info.

[2012-05-18 16:40:46] <Maya21> y not set him up? use him

[2012-05-18 16:41:17] <i3_> Well, they'll know he's been taken by now, most likely

[2012-05-18 16:41:22] <C1UCharon> The mental conditioning that occurs within a cult amounts to OTHERING. I capitalize that to put

the term out there. It's an US and THEM kind of conditioning.

[2012-05-18 16:41:31] <C1UCharon> for instance:

[2012-05-18 16:42:07] <C1UCharon> I'm certain none of you would've put a kind word to the guy that captures people and works them

over with a phone book until you had a clear, defined THEM to hate.

[2012-05-18 16:42:32] <C1UCharon> It's US: Strike Group Charon and the SIFT. Them: Cultists that want to hurt people.

[2012-05-18 16:42:43] <C1UCharon> There's no middle ground immediately recognized.

[2012-05-18 16:42:59] <Maya21> every1 else is the middle ground ;)

[2012-05-18 16:43:11] <kluge> yeah I don't want to hurt anyone

[2012-05-18 16:43:22] <C1UCharon> Giving this cat the opportunity to do something for us would likely result in the awakening of

his concept of "Them" again. We'd probably have to remove him.

[2012-05-18 16:43:44] <i3_> That's pretty much the base-line for human conflict. It's really easy for people to decide on

a them.

[2012-05-18 16:44:13] <Maya21> charon maybe you could strap him on a zebra n have him lead you to the HVT's

[2012-05-18 16:44:15] <C1UCharon> The most humane way to proceed is put him somewhere that his "US" and "THEM" becomes trivial for

as long as it takes for this to die down. Otherwise, he's likely to end up in a microwave incinerator.

[2012-05-18 16:44:31] <C1UCharon> I'd love to, but I'm so full from all this fugu that I'm just gonna stay my ass right here.

[2012-05-18 16:46:30] <i3_> I wish this tranlsation was further along. It'd help if we could give you what we need to find

out while you've still got him

[2012-05-18 16:46:41] <i3_> Assuming there's things in it we'll need to know

[2012-05-18 16:46:48] <i3_> Which I think is safe

[2012-05-18 16:47:17] <C1UCharon> Let me know if there's something more

[2012-05-18 16:47:20] <C1UCharon> Standby one

[2012-05-18 16:47:54] <kluge> So, you are not likely to say this is a game, in either case. Will you say it is not a game?

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[2012-05-18 17:01:56] <anon__> Depression is a complement to it I will use one half Blood Stone Children with depression repellent

to evil and the inner half stone

[2012-05-18 17:02:08] <C1UCharon> Back.

[2012-05-18 17:02:10] <anon__> most understandble one i got

[2012-05-18 17:02:21] <C1UCharon> Why do these translations usually sound like metal lyrics?

[2012-05-18 17:02:41] <anon__> cultists love heavy metal

[2012-05-18 17:03:38] <anon__> I located the cow at I Toyota :|

[2012-05-18 17:07:31] <Sorgens> What cow'

[2012-05-18 17:08:07] <anon__> Uehara Cattle would have been better located at The city is one I will Tsushi are guaranteed virus

Blood Stone does not Half to the child and then firing to depression and the inner subregion

[2012-05-18 17:12:56] <C1UCharon> Stepping off. Will make contact in six. Stay classy, SIFT.